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Can I Say This At Church Podcast

May 12, 2018

Episode Transcript

Guest: Austin Channing Brown

In a time when nearly all institutions (schools, churches, universities, businesses) claim to value "diversity" in their mission our words matter? How do we do this as a people and more importantly how do we begin to reconcile with each other. Sometimes we need to realize what is the 'right medicine'.


For readers who have engaged with America's legacy on race through the writing of Ta-Nehisi Coates and Michael Eric Dyson, I'm Still Here is an illuminating look at how white, middle-class, Evangelicalism has participated in an era of rising racial hostility, inviting the reader to confront apathy, recognize God's ongoing work in the world, and discover how blackness--if we let it--can save us all


Austin earned a master’s degree in social justice from Marygrove College in Detroit, Michigan. Building on the foundation of her graduate work, she directed a short-term missions site on the west side of Chicago, creating interactive opportunities for youth to engage issues of poverty, injustice. She also served on staff with Willow Creek Community Church, developing strategies and programming around multiculturalism. She then served as resident director and multicultural liaison for three years at Calvin College, in Grand Rapids, Michigan, working closely with millennials.  

I'm Still Here: Black Dignity in a World Made for Whiteness: Amazon

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Special Music for this episode was provided by Jordan St.Cyr, who was recently recognized as the CM United Artist of the Year.

Tracks include: In My Lifetime, Lay it Down, Victory

Find his music on iTunes, YouTube as well as Spotify as well Instagram and Facebook, Twitterand at

Jordan began his musical journey at the age of 14 writing poems and lyrics that longed to reveal the deeper things of life.  In his teen years, Jordan honed his ability as a singer and guitar player in his home church where he led worship for his youth group and on Sunday mornings.  It was here that Jordan introduced his first songs to the public and developed a desire for writing original compositions.

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